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Orgone Visualized in Sky Public Forum 1996

Date: Sat, 22 Jun 1996 19:55:38 GMT
To: pore@ime.net
From: Theodorich Kopetzky theo@tk.uni-linz.ac.at
Subject: Orgone Energy Visualized In Sky

Hi PORE,

I just found your homepage and read some of the pages.
I don't know if orgone energy really exists and I don't have the time to
prove its existence or non-existence.

But I take some time to answer one question in your FAQ, regarding
orgone in the sky.

Original message:
>> "Carlos Alberto Sanchez Velasco"carloss@speedy.coacade.uv.mx
>>
>> I want to know from years ago... When I see a piece of sky in a shiny day,
>> or better, in a cloudy day, what are those kinds of little worms of light
>> that come and go over my visual field? They appear and disappear very
>> quickly and I can perceive a lots of them... They not always appear
>> however, some days I can see them some better and others don't. What they
>> are? Is anything related to the orgone that W. Reich describes? The orgone
>> is visible? This kind of experience is common or uncommon? This is a only
>> a particular case? Maybe there are something wrong with my eyes? Thanks a
>> lot for your time to read this message.
>>
>> Sincerely, Carlos Alberto Sánchez Velasco


> Response From: PORE To: "Carlos Alberto Sanchez Velasco"
>
> hi Carlos, It is not uncommon for most to see orgone energy points of
> light dancing in the sky. Wilhelm Reich confirmed that they are able to be
> magnified which means they are outside our eyes. Few people seem to want
> to admit seeing them unless they are asked. Since conventional science
> doesn't want to talk about it or study it, few people want to talk about
> it. I have found that the majority of individuals I ask do see them and
> remember them better when they were young. Some days they are much
> stronger and energetic indicating usually that orgone energy is moving
> well and not stagnant as it can be on a dorish day. Your eyes are fine and
> your senses are still working well in respect to atmospheric orgone. I
> have even noted orgone packets of light in the sky from a jet. WR's
> daughter Eva Reich says that orgone energy refracts light and that helps
> make its movement readily visible........jogg

You really did your part to enjoy me with your answer. I think I make
some comments on it. Let's see:

> Few people seem to want to admit seeing them unless they are asked.
Well, I've not been asked but I see them, too. But I wont call them orgone
energy points. For an explanation see below.

> Since conventional science doesn't want to talk about it or study it, few
> people want to talk about it.
I don't know what you mean by "conventional science doesn't want to talk
about it". Conventional science is even demonstrating it:

Some years ago I visited an industry and science museum in Paris, France,
called 'La Villette' (I hope I got the spelling right). They had a little
apparatus (among many other interesting things) built of a light source, a
colored plate of frosted glass and some lenses as eyepiece. When you looked
through the eyepiece with one eye you saw many tiny bright sparks dancing in
front of your eye. The explanation stated that the sparks you were seeing
are blood corpuscles (red, white etc.). They do not have the same index of
refraction than the transparent tissues around them so they change the path
of light and that's why you can see them. The are just acting as little
lenses. This works best when you you're looking against a monchromatic area
(e.g. like the sky) where your concentration is not distracted by other
things.
I you're watching your pulse the same time you're seeing the sparks, you
will see that they are moving faster a short time after your heart contracts.

Why there are blood corpuscles in your eyes? Well, your eyes aren't dead,
they are living tissue and so they have to be supplied with nutrients,
oxygene, etc.

> Your eyes are fine and your senses are still working well in respect to
> atmospheric orgone.
I think his eyes are fine and his senses are still working well, too, even
without having to use orgone energy points as explanation.

> I have even noted orgone packets of light in the sky from a jet. WR's
> daughter Eva Reich says that orgone energy refracts light and that helps
> make its movement readily visible.
If that's true than the orgone energy has to be some solid stuff. According
to current physics only matter can refract light. Other energy forms like
radiation don't refract light, otherwise you won't be able to transmit hughe
amounts of data through a single glass fibre.
If you want to see how different types of radiation interact (by
interference) I would recommend a good book of physics although this is
"conventional science" ;-)

Best regards,
Theodorich Kopetzky

Nobody made a greater mistake than he who did nothing
because he could do only a little.

Sun, 23 Jun 1996 08:32:16 -0400 (EDT)
From: pore@ime.net
Subject: Re: Orgone Energy Visualized In Sky
To: Theodorich Kopetzky theo@tk.uni-linz.ac.at

Theodorich Kopetzky ,

Thank you for your response which I will post. I am glad that my previous response to the previous question concerning the white blue dots seen in the sky (that vary in intensity depending on the weather) entertained you. I personally do not consider Reich was necessarily correct in all his experiments and explanations as is the same for any scientist. I have heard the explanation of blood cells refracting light within the eyes before but my only consternation with such an explanation is that they show no movement that would be attributed to such cells and that if one can magnify the phenomena that Reich described as orgone energy units with the orgonoscope then wouldn't that give evidence that what one is seeing is not in the eyes but rather outside of our eyes?

I noted that you stated "I don't know if orgone energy really exists and I don't have the time to prove its existence or non-existence." I find this a typical reaction of many scientist and researchers who like you are quite willing to make comment on it as you have done. I challenge any scientist to carry out bonafide experiments to disprove orgone energy as well as prove its existence. If those who are so quick to give other explanations for observed phenomena concerning orgone energy were to as well research, repeat the experiments, and document the results; then we would have something real to talk about. And I for one would whole heartedly publish on the web genuine documented evidence that disproves the experimental results obtained by Reich as well as genuine documented evidence that supports the experimental results obtained by Reich. I have yet to see any that has disproved it especially anyone who has carried out the protocols as formulated by Reich.

Is there validity to the explanation that you submitted: ...

"Some years ago I visited an industry and science museum in Paris, France, called 'La Villette' (I hope I got the spelling right). They had a little apparatus (among many other interesting things) built of a light source, a colored plate of frosted glass and some lenses as eyepiece. When you looked through the eyepiece with one eye you saw many tiny bright sparks dancing in front of your eye. The explanation stated that the sparks you were seeing are blood corpuscles (red, white etc.). They do not have the same index of refraction than the transparent tissues around them so they change the path of light and that's why you can see them. The are just acting as little lenses. This works best when you you're looking against a monochromatic area (e.g. like the sky) where your concentration is not distracted by other things.

If you're watching your pulse the same time you're seeing the sparks, you will see that they are moving faster a short time after your heart contracts.

Why there are blood corpuscles in your eyes? Well, your eyes aren't dead, they are living tissue and so they have to be supplied with nutrients, oxygen, etc."

Here are some questions to the above...

1. "If the sparks you were seeing are blood corpuscles (red, white etc." Then why is there no variance of color (red-white) to what is seen in the sky? I have only seen bright transparent white and they more often spiral in there movements.

2. Seeing Them. "This works best when you you're looking against a monochromatic area (e.g. like the sky) where your concentration is not distracted by other things."
Why does there intensity vary even with the same color sky on different days or even change with time?

3. "If you're watching your pulse the same time you're seeing the sparks, you will see that they are moving faster a short time after your heart contracts."
This is not the case as I have known it, nor is it the case as described by others I know. There seems to be no pulsation of the blue-white dots related to the heart beat and there is no movement of them that resembles live movement of cells under a microscope.

4. "Why there are blood corpuscles in your eyes? Well, your eyes aren't dead, they are living tissue and so they have to be supplied with nutrients, oxygen, etc."
Has some one tried to photograph from behind an eyeball that is alive and one that is dead to prove that it truly is refracted light of moving blood corpuscles??

I welcome your response and if you find the time to try Reich's orgonoscope that will magnify this phenomena you can obtain plans from the Wilhelm Reich Museum/ PO Box 687/ Rangeley, Maine 04970.

Best regard
Jogg

Date: Sun, 23 Jun 1996 18:31:14 GMT
To: pore@ime.net
From: Theodorich Kopetzky theo@tk.uni-linz.ac.at
Subject: Re: Orgone Energy Visualized In Sky

** Reply to note from pore@ime.net Sun, 23 Jun 1996 08:32:08 -0400 (EDT)

Hello Jogg!

> I noted that you stated "I don't know if orgone energy really exists and I
> don't have the time to prove its existence or non-existence." I find this a
> typical reaction of many scientist and researchers who like you are quite
> willing to make comment on it as you have done.
It's the truth. I don't know it. But why does that exclude me from an
explanation without using orgone in it. I commented on it because I think I
have an explanation which is much simpler than one using some strange kind
of energy (think of Occam's razor).
I do know that the simpliest explanation is not necessarily the correct one
or is simplifying a problem too much. But usually I take the explanation
which answers more questions then asking new ones.
On the other side, I don't know if black holes exist. Current theory and
current data is feeding the believe that they do.
I even don't know if electrons really exist. But I'm told my computer is
working with them and it works (at least sometimes :) so I believe it.
There are so many things out there I can only believe because I don't have
the time or the means to prove or disprove it.
But I'm going off the point...

> I challenge any scientist to
> carry out bonafide experiments to disprove orgone energy as well as prove its
> existence. If those who are so quick to give other explanations for observed
> phenomena concerning orgone energy were to as well research, repeat the
> experiments, and document the results; then we would have something real to
> talk about.
Sorry, I'm already sort of a scientist but in a different field: computer
science. And it's a full time job for me. So I stay with giving other
explanations :)


> Here are some questions to the above...
>
> 1. "If the sparks you were seeing are blood corpuscles (red, white etc."
> Then why is there no variance of color (red-white) to what is seen in the sky?
> I have only seen bright transparent white and they more often spiral in
> there movements.

I doubt that you can see color if you see a single blood corpuscle. They are
nearly transparent and only many of them are giving the blood its color.

> 2. Seeing Them. "This works best when you you're looking against a
> monochromatic area (e.g. like the sky) where your concentration
> is not distracted by other things."
> Why does there intensity vary even with the same color sky on
> different days or even change with time?
I don't know the exact answer so I'm only speculating. I sometimes have
problems to focus on a thing 'cause I'm tired or under stress or whatever.
If there is nothing what your eyes could use to focus on I could imagine
them trying to focus on different distances.
Another explanation would be your builtin filtering mechanisms. Just as you
sometimes don't hear things because your filtering mechanisms regarded them
useless, you're not seeing some things. You usuallay concentrate on a very
small spot of your visual field, ignoring all other things. Only if
something moves within your visual field your attention is attracted - or
if you willingly direct your attention somewhere else. I think if you would
always see the small movements within your eyes you would go crazy.
It's the same with the noise your blood is generating in your ear. You
usually don't hear it, except you're holding a shell at your ear or you
are in a silent room where you can concentrate on your hearing.

> 3. "If you're watching your pulse the same time you're seeing the sparks,
> you will see that they are moving faster a short time after your heart
> contracts."
> This is not the case as I have known it, nor is it the case as described
> by others I know. There seems to be no pulsation of the blue-white dots
> related to the heart beat and there is no movement of them that resembles
> live movement of cells under a microscope.
First, they are moving throug capillaries. Capillaries are not straight, at
least I've never seen a straight one. They are best described by a fractal
geometry. So they can't move straight forward all the time.
Second, they don't move by its own, they are driven. Moving cells under a
microscope usually have something to move them around (think of flagellums
which blood corpuscels don't have). Read blood corpuscles are no cells,
they are very large molecules transporting oxygen.
Third, the blood pressure in capillaries is pretty constant, so the movement
is pretty constant, too.

> 4. "Why there are blood corpuscles in your eyes? Well, your eyes aren't dead,
> they are living tissue and so they have to be supplied with nutrients,
> oxygen, etc."
> Has some one tried to photograph from behind an eyeball that is alive
> and one that is dead to prove that it truly is refracted light of
> moving blood corpuscles??
I really don't know how you could take a photograph from behind a living
eyeball without putting a device through someones eyes or head. It's not the
same than taking pictures from your stommach where there is an opening and a
passage to it available. And I sure am one person who won't allow such a
photo taken from my eyes. I like them way too much :)

Another point: If orgone is life energy you would only see moving points
through the living eyeball and not through the dead one, thus showing or
proving nothing.
In addition, in a dead eyeball will be no moving blood corpuscles.

Best regards,
Theodorich Kopetzky

Date: Sun, 24 Jun 1996
From: pore@ime.net
Subject: Re: Orgone Energy Visualized In Sky
To: Theodorich Kopetzky theo@tk.uni-linz.ac.at

Theodorich Kopetzky,

An interesting delima with no proof but many explanations. I am still curious as to how one explains that a orgonoscope which has a lens and an area of a screen to focus on is able to magnify these blue white dots. This instument is described with a drawing of it in "The Cancer Biopathy" by Wilhem Reich.

It is always worth trying another way of looking at things and not accepting the same beliefs on face value. Science and man's perceptions have changed by doing this. Examples are endless such as Alfred Wagner - plate tectonics; Galileo - gravity acceleration same for all objects on earth surface, earth not the center of the universe,; Einstein- energy equals mass x speed of light. Just as those individuals change our perceptions of the world from old views, there will be others with new insights and proofs that will change these new ones. It is these changes that make science(knowledge) so interesting. Even the speed of sound was thought to be a barrier but now we know better. Now we are taught that the speed of light is a barrier but the time will probably arrive when we realize that that also may be a false perception.

best regards........jogg

Date: Fri, 09 Aug 1996 18:09:11 -0700
From: Susan Lee Armiger armiger@mail.bcpl.lib.md.us
To: pore@ime.net
Subject: orgone energy visualized in sky

Last summer I first witnessed the dancing sparks of light in the sky.
It was a beautiful, clear and sunny afternoon. I thought I was losing
my mind. A day or two prior to that I had some intense bodywork done
and experienced a major energy surge in my body. I believe this
experience opened my eyes, so to speak.

These sparks of lights dart about, appearing and disappearing very
quickly. They don't seem to be affected by wind or by my waving my
hand through them. It leads me to believe that they are not of this
dimension. They can best be seen and are extremely active on bright,
sunny days. On cloudy days, they are a bit sluggish. It also helps
to relax your eyes and not focus on anything. I see them in the sky
and also dancing around my upraised hand.

I have also observed other activity in the sky. I can only compare it
to heat waves rising off a hot street. The waves seem to become
concentrated in one spot and have a rolling inward motion to them -
almost like a horizontal vortex. It's very hard to describe. I'm
curious to know if anyone else has witnessed this activity.

armiger@mail.bcpl.lib.md.us

96aug09
From: pore@ime.net
Subject: Re: orgone energy visualized in sky
To: Susan Lee Armiger armiger@mail.bcpl.lib.md.us
In-Reply-To: 320BE137.49F7@mail.bcpl.lib.md.us

August 9, 1996

Hi Susan,
You seem to see it very well. I keep looking and studying it
myself and most of the time just lay back and just enjoy the
feeling and fun of watching it. Your description is right on the
mark. I see the heat wave stuff you mention but much better at
night at the zenith point or near it. It reminds me of the motion
of northern lights that are intense but I see the effect without
northern lights present at all. When I first saw the night effect
I kept looking for northern lights but of course they were
hardly ever there. I also started to see more after therapy
which included opening the flow through my armored ocular area.
As for the sparkle dots I have always seen them and after hearing
from others lately that think they are refraction of light
through blood cells in the eye I have studied them more
subjectively. They do not move in any pattern that would resemble
flowing fluid like blood. I find them much more active near the
sun even when I have completely blocked the light portion of the
sun from view by a building. Looking the other direction in a
bright sky a few hours before sunset they were less active and
seemed to be fewer. I would almost submit that the sun may
activate or irritate them more to luminescence but I certainly do
not have enough research to say anything definitive. Reich
describes most of the light functions of orgone in the sky in his
book "The Cancer Biopathy" in chapters 3 and 4.
Your describe it so well but I must reserve or hold back any
belief of this phenomena as being part of another dimension. That
would certainly take some experimental evidence and Reich only
had physical evidence that placed them clearly in this dimension.
I like best your describing the heat-wave effect that certainly
is quite different than what scientist refer to as heat waves.
Bravo to you............best regards....Jogg

Date: Mon, 12 Aug 1996 12:09:01 -0700
Message-Id: <320F814D.2454@bcpl.lib.md.us>
From: Armiger armiger@mail.bcpl.lib.md.us
To: pore@ime.net
Subject: Re: orgone energy visualized in sky
References: 199608100206.WAA22140@ime.net ; md5:E335DBB8659F5EAA2968B1E867E5D85B

Armiger wrote:
>
> pore@ime.net wrote:
> >
> > August 9, 1996
> >
> > Hi Susan,
> > You seem to see it very well. I keep looking and studying it
> > myself and most of the time just lay back and just enjoy the
> > feeling and fun of watching it. Your description is right on the
> > mark. I see the heat wave stuff you mention but much better at
> > night at the zenith point or near it. It reminds me of the motion
> > of northern lights that are intense but I see the effect without
> > northern lights present at all. When I first saw the night effect
> > I kept looking for northern lights but of course they were
> > hardly ever there. I also started to see more after therapy
> > which included opening the flow through my armored ocular area.
> > As for the sparkle dots I have always seen them and after hearing
> > from others lately that think they are refraction of light
> > through blood cells in the eye I have studied them more
> > subjectively. They do not move in any pattern that would resemble
> > flowing fluid like blood. I find them much more active near the
> > sun even when I have completely blocked the light portion of the
> > sun from view by a building. Looking the other direction in a
> > bright sky a few hours before sunset they were less active and
> > seemed to be fewer. I would almost submit that the sun may
> > activate or irritate them more to luminescence but I certainly do
> > not have enough research to say anything definitive. Reich
> > describes most of the light functions of orgone in the sky in his
> > book "The Cancer Biopathy" in chapters 3 and 4.
> > Your describe it so well but I must reserve or hold back any
> > belief of this phenomena as being part of another dimension. That
> > would certainly take some experimental evidence and Reich only
> > had physical evidence that placed them clearly in this dimension.
> > I like best your describing the heat-wave effect that certainly
> > is quite different than what scientist refer to as heat waves.
> > Bravo to you............best regards....Jogg
> >
> > Jogg:
>
> I hope you don't mind my picking your brain. I've never come across
> anyone who has seen this. I've read about the sparks of light in books,
> but have never read about the waves. One book mentioned that the earth
> gives off energy waves. Do you think that's what it is?
>
> I'm don't know what the zenith point is, but for me, the waves can best
> be seen at the end of the day when the atmosphere has a golden quality
> to it. The waves are harder for me to see than the sparks of light.
> I have to focus, (or rather unfocus), my eyes and hold it.
>
> One more question. I read that our breath is the vehicle for this
> energy to enter our bodies, however, the sparks aren't affected by
> blowing into them or waving my hand throught them. What are your
> thoughts on this?
>
> Over the past two years my blindfold has slowly been removed and last
> summer, when I first saw the sparks, the blindfold was ripped off. This
> was extremely unsettling at first. This experience, along with a few
> others, made my perception of reality do a 180. However, the past few
> years I've been asking to be shown the truth and that is what I'm
> getting. If these things had been revealed to my any earlier in my
> life, I would have lost my mind. Our creator has great timing.
>
> Thanks for listening.

96aug14
From: pore@ime.net
Subject: Re: orgone energy visualized in sky
To: Armiger armiger@mail.bcpl.lib.md.us
In-Reply-To: 320F814D.2454@bcpl.lib.md.us ;
X-Mailer: SPRY Mail Version: 04.10.06.22

Hi Susan,

I'm also curious what books you had read about the sparks of
light, do you remember what the names were and who authored them?

The waves I mentioned I see best at night and somewhat in the
evening or twighlight sky but in thinking of a better description
, I would call it a flickering or glimmering of wave motion. I
usually look up at zenith (The point in the sky that is the
highest point in the sky to view directly over your head) to
relax my gaze when they begin to show. I have also noted that
they are strong around tree tops.
Is this an energy field of the earth? Yes most probably but I can
not prove it. I have also conjectured that the earth is a giant
accumulator in alternating layers like an orgone accumulator
developed by Reich. The earth has an organic layer (life, plants,
water, etc.,), the most interior part of the earth is a metal
core basically iron. The energy from our point of view on the
surface is more concentrated close to the surface but varies with
the diurnal changes. The waves are harder to see than the dot
lights are but when sitting in darkness in an ORAC I have found
that what Reich described in (The Cancer Biopathy) about the
wave motion was easy to see and even tired my eyes from watching
it. To unfocus or have a relaxed gaze is the key to seeing for me
as well but in the ORAC (orgone accumulator) I do not even have
to try to unfocus. There are some who do not see it readily but
my son this summer when in an ORAC room at the Reich museum
immediately saw bright flashing dots he called lightning that
startled him and he saw grayish blue wave movement within the
room moving from east to west prior to a storm that was coming
later in the day. Children see it much easier than adults.
Less armor may certainly play a role in this I suspect but I
believe Reich realized this as well.

If Reich is correct that the energy that is seen is pre-atomic
then it would make sense that it can not by affected by moving
matter through it such as your hand or blowing on it.

Hope this response is of help to you.

best regards..............Jogg

Date: Mon, 14 Oct 1996 17:25:41 +0000
From: "A GREENE" Mi950012@newi.ac.uk
Organization: North East Wales Institute
To: pore@ime.net
Subject: Those Dancing Lights in the Sky ...
Message-Id: 724573CE5@saturn.newi.ac.uk;

A lot of correspondence has apparently been given on this subject.
It's something I'd like to comment on, now.

> I have heard the explanation of blood cells refracting
> light within the eyes before but my only consternation with such an
> explanation is that they show no movement that would be attributed to
> such cells and that if one can magnify the phenomena that Reich
> described as orgone energy units with the orgonoscope then wouldn't
> that give evidence that what one is seeing is not in the eyes but
> rather outside of our eyes?

This seems to me like one of those "If You're Seeing Things Which I
Don't Believe In, You're Hallucinating And Wrong" comments I'm sick
and tired of. A true scientist does not attempt to disprove another's
observations by calling the observer a quack. The best scientists
turn around and say something like "Ooh, cool. Can I see them too? My
laboratory's just down the road. Lets go."

If something is only visible inside one person's eyes, then by
definition the next person standing beside the observer is going to
see something different, something stranger or nothing at all. But if
that independent observer sees the same objects executing the same
trajectories, eclipsing the same landmarks (e.g. if a ball of light
were Venus, then the clouds certainly would not be able to pass
_behind_it, now, would they?) then it's an objective phenomenon.

Here's an idea for you to think about. Take video footage from two
independent video cameras. Entrust the separate video footage to two
_independent_ solicitors, who will agree to hold the tapes separate
and unmolested until their comparison back at the lab.

Back at the lab, run the tape footage from both videos, synchronising
their time codes so that they will be running in parallel. Compare
one with the other, frame by frame if necessary, using computer
enhancement if possible. Let no feature of either film go unnoticed.

Then, whether you're right or wrong, take your opponent out for a
pint down at the local pub. Science is serious, but it should never
be deadly. If either of you are true scientists, one of you should
always be ready to get rid of what has become obvious bull. No hard
feelings. There's always another theory round the next corner.

The problem is, nobody has yet made this approach towards Orgone,
either to prove it or to disprove it.

> I noted that you stated "I don't know if orgone energy really exists
> and I don't have the time to prove its existence or non-existence." I
> find this a typical reaction of many scientist and researchers who
> like you are quite willing to make comment on it as you have done.

Case in point.

> I challenge any scientist to carry out bonafide experiments to disprove
> orgone energy as well as prove its existence. If those who are so
> quick to give other explanations for observed phenomena concerning
> orgone energy were to as well research, repeat the experiments, and
> document the results; then we would have something real to talk about.
> And I for one would whole heartedly publish on the web genuine
> documented evidence that disproves the experimental results obtained
> by Reich as well as genuine documented evidence that supports the
> experimental results obtained by Reich. I have yet to see any that has
> disproved it especially anyone who has carried out the protocols as
> formulated by Reich.

> Is there validity to the explanation that you submitted: ...

>> "Some years ago I visited an industry and science museum in Paris,
>> France, called 'La Villette' (I hope I got the spelling right). They
>> had a little apparatus (among many other interesting things) built of
>> a light source, a colored plate of frosted glass and some lenses as
>> eyepiece. When you looked through the eyepiece with one eye you saw
>> many tiny bright sparks dancing in front of your eye. The explanation
>> stated that the sparks you were seeing are blood corpuscles (red,
>> white etc.). They do not have the same index of refraction than the
>> transparent tissues around them so they change the path of light and
>> that's why you can see them. The are just acting as little lenses.
>> This works best when you you're looking against a monochromatic area
>> (e.g. like the sky) where your concentration is not distracted by
>> other things.

On occasion, when I'm not concentrating, I perceive an internal moire
pattern superimposed on whatever I'm seeing. That _does_ change in
frequency according to my pulse rate, so I presume that _that_ is the
blood running through my eyeballs. It's a sign of high blood
pressure, I am told. My problem.

However, I am familiar with the dots and squiggles running through my
field of view, and the circumstances whereby they become visible to
me. I put it down to minute flakes of dead skin from my eyelashes,
eyebrows and dandruff from my hair fringe, including fallen eyelashes
and hair fragments which fall onto the liquid layer over the
conjunctiva of the eye. If you blink and the spots vanish, then the
dots you see _are_ just dust and microscopic flakes: otherwise, if
you still see them with your eyes closed, I have no explanation for
them, unless it's more of the same, only trapped behind your eyelids.

In my experience, the only time you get blood corpuscles _in your
field of view_ is if you're leaking blood into your eye. That's a
very serious medical condition, and I don't think that this is what
you're seeing.

One final observation. If the dots are a phenomenon caused by orgone,
have you considered whether or not they become more frequent, less
frequent or are unaffected by a building orgasm? I suggest some
practical empirical research should be made into this possibility at
once. :-)

Stay Doubtful.

Peace,

Alexander T Greene mi950012@newi.ac.uk

Orgone Visualized in Sky Public Forum 1997

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