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ORAC Magnetic Field Directions

by Ernst_Niedermeier

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Jogg wrote OML August 17, 1998:

Hi Ernst, Peter, Andy and others,

I thought it may be of help to have what Reich wrote in regards to the magnetic field to further the experimental work on magnetism. So here it is.

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Reich, Wilhelm; The Cancer Biopathy; copyright 1948; Orgone Institute Press, Inc.; 157 Christopher Street, New York 14, N. Y. ; (special limited edition 1500 copies) page 106

"OBJECTIVE DEMONSTRATION OF THE ORGONE ENERGY……

Demonstration of orgonotic attraction in the energy field of the orgone accumulator:

Experiment: We bring a good magnetic needle close to an orgone accumulator of 1 cubic foot, in the following manner: a) close to the center of the 4 upper edges; b) close to the center of the lower edges.

Result: The magnetic north pole regularly turns toward the center of the upper edges, the magnetic south pole toward the center of the lower edges."

Ernst wrote OML August 27,1998:

Hi Jogg and OML,

first, thank you very much for typing in this long paragraph.

I tried to verify this statement but I couldn't. Using my (person size) ORAC I recorded the angle indicated by the compass in the middle of the top and bottem edges, in "normal" position and in "reverse" position (bottom side looking upward), by approaching the compass to the ORAC form outside. The following data give the angle indicated by the compass moving around ccw from edge middle to edge middle. (Values in deg)

Top, Normal 200 20 100 210
Bottom, Normal 350 100 220 60

Top, Reverse 120 330 95 240
Bottom, Reverse 140 120 270 15

According to Reich's statement, the result should be as follows: (the compass was always kept at the same orientation, the earth magnetic field giving a reading of 90 deg)

Top, Normal + Reverse: 180 90 0 270
Bottom, Normal + Reverse: 0 270 180 90

That means, going around on the top or bottom side, the reading should decrease by 90 deg, going from top to bottom, the reading should increase (or decrease) by 180 deg. I cannot find any such law in above measurement. Taking the magnetic direction with a 10 cm grid on one side panel, I found a quite complex variation of the magnetic direction. (I have a drawing, also about the before mentioned measurement locations, but the file is 100 kbyte, o. k. to send)?

Rotation of the ORAC by 90 deg around his vertical axis was also investigated. The measurement did not show a clear picture on whether the magnetic field is constant with respect to the ORAC or with respect to the earth. None of these seems to be the case.

The behaviour of the ORAC magnetic field nevertheless does not seem to be in line with what we expect from a normal magnetic field. The facts to support this statement is that there is a strong magnetic reaction in the middle of the pannel, and the lack of symmetry of the magnetic field (can be seen in my drawing). If we asume the side panel shows the behaviour of a weak permanent magnet, then there should be a magnetic reaction at the edges only. In the middle, theory expects a flow back of the magnetic flux orienting the compass needle parallel to its longer direction.

Your comments are invited. Best regards

Ernst

Full Thread of discussion on Orac/Compass below

Andy wrote to OML July 15, 1998

Ernst,

I am currently in Rangeley attending a conference at Orgonon. I will attempt to borrow a compass here and try a few experiments with their ORAC if they have no objections. What better place to carry on this type of research? Otherwise, and in addition, I will experiment when I return home next week after the 22nd. Sounds like a trial easy enough to do in order tocome up with some sort of data to share here.

Andrew

Ernst wrote to OML July 20, 1998

Great!!!

I am very curious on what you find.

Ernst

Andy wrote to OML July 24, 1998

While at Orgonon last week, myself and several other attendees of the annual conference there made observations of a small inexpensive automobile compass - the type that is a sphere suspended in a solution and having apparently no metal parts to its outer construction. The results are inconclusive, in that we were unable to find the time to really devote to this, including a control situation, and haphazardly made tests among ourselves and with others, without recording all the data of our findings. However, it should be noted that there were some apparenlty unexplanable or unusual observations which we all took notice of, and found the overall initial attempts to find out how a compass would react to the ORAC nothing less than interesting and unexpected.

For one thing, we started in the Orgone Room, which is like a walk-in accumulator that can accommodate 15 or 20 people. We measured the compass, while facing due North in the center of the room which showed a due North reading. In the corners of the room we found that the readings did not conform to all the expected coordinates, especially in the corners and near the floor. In this room sits, also, two accumulators, one large enough and designed for a human, and the other for experimenting with seeds and other organic substances (even large enough for a child.) We took turns putting the compass inside each of these accumulators while facing due North. Incidentally, due North was confirmed before entering the building, the room outside the Orgone Room, and inside the Orgone Room, along with people from Orgonon who knew the compass coordinates of the building in advance. Inside the accumulator we found the upper right-hand back corner gave us a strange Westerly reading, while still facing North, and an Easterly reading in the lower right-hand corner, as I recall. I do wish that we had taken more time to make more experiments and test thoroughly the compass inside the accumulators and the room, but the events of the week made it inopportune. We took the large accumulator out the room and into the conference room, where we hurriedly made some more observations, and the results were slightly different, though I do not recall the significance of these at this time.

As Jamerling Ogg was there the night we made these impromptu tests, he may have better recall of some of the apparently odd results he noted we were obtaining. I hope he will be able to share his thoughts on what we encountered. In addition, I will take more accurate observations and records of the results using my own accumulator, which I hope to do over the next few weeks. I am sorry not to be able to give a more thorough report at this time. Let us just say that there were some unusal results that everyone found very interesting and therefore, additional testing and observations are paramount before drawing any reportable conclusions. I hope others will try this simple test and give their results on this list so we may compare our observations.

Thanks,

Andy Kahn

Jogg wrote OML July 27, 1998

I was there only for the last night of the conference and was not present for the first round of compass testing on the ORAC. I did however on the last night quickly check the compass on the outside corners of the orac starting with the top , then the middle, and then the bottom. The top corners on the outside of the orac attracted the north point of the compass with the exception of the northeast top corner of the orac which attracted the south end of the compass. This exception was unexpected but testing of the arrangement of the metal sheets in the orac before constructing it may have something to do with this result. For example say that the metal sheets which were several on a side to make this particular orac may have had a south side next to a south side etc.

The bottom of this particular orac attracted the south part of the compass to the outside corners with again exception to the northeast corner. The middle section of the outside corners attracted half way between the top attraction of the compass and the bottom attraction of the compass.

I also quickly attempted to check the inside corners of the orac for attraction of the compass. The results seemed very inconsistent and varied that I did not bother to record the results realizing that the construction of the orac metal faces should be tested before construction. I also realized that recording the results at the time of the dinner that night would not give the time to record all the varied results on the interior of the Orac. One could also check the centers of each side inside and out. We did not try this at the time. Also a control wooden box should be used and a plain metal box should be used as controls. The wooden box should not show any changes. The plain metal box should be interesting to compare to an Orac.

Also it should be considered where in the world one is. Are you in the northern hemisphere or the south or are you on the magnetic equator of the earth. The magnetic equator is different from the equator due to the tilt of the earth's magnetic field.

As Andy says more detailed research should be done. If someone knows otherwise , please share your information.

Has any one else done magnetic experiments on the ORAC??

regards ..... Jogg

Ernst wrote to OML August 9, 1998

Hello Andy and Jogg and all OML,

thanks a lot for communicating your Compass/ORAC results. I myself also had this feeling of hard-to-understand behaviour of the compass. Concerning the geographical directions, I found that they are not relevant (in my case). When I rotate the ORAC, the direction indicated by the Compass is stable relative to the ORAC. If one point of the ORAC field is arranged exactly opposite to the earth magnetic field, the Compass needle rotates by 180 deg when approaching this point. When rotating the ORAC by 180 deg, the needle does not rotate when approaching. The behaviour for 90 deg is analogous. In my appartment I also detected that the "north" direction varies by about +-15 degrees (measuring outside an far away from the ORAC).

I also tried to make a non-ferromagnetic ORAC as a control box. I bought 5 mm thick aluminium laminated styroflex used for heating insulation, glued three layers together to get an ORAC of about 50 cm side length. As a result, there was no detectible influence upon the compass. But I am not sure if this accu is a good accu, or if it is working at all.

Last week I recorded the compass reading of one side panel of my ORAC using a grid of 10x10 cm, for 3 different planes and 2 sides (wood-metal) each plane. The result seems very lawful, but not obvious to explain with classical theory. I am about to prepare a report with some visualisation I will distribute to you. Unfortunately the compass angle reading does not give an exact picture of a magnetic field. This would have to be done with a sensor that is capable to record the x-y-z component of the "magnetic field". (Provided that the ORAC "Magnetic Field" has all properties in common with the known magnetic field, like the hall-effect).

best regards

Ernst

Andy wrote to OML August 9, 1998

Dear Ernst and others interested,

Seems as though we all are having some kind of feeling that the ORAC has an effect on the compass. As to what exactly can be nailed down remains o be seen with further observations taken by any or all of us. It will be interesting for us to continue to publish here any noticeable results. Any others who are interested in sharing any ideas or test observations would be greatly appreciated.

Andy

Jogg wrote OML August 17, 1998:

Hi Ernst, Peter, Andy and others,

I thought it may be of help to have what Reich wrote in regards to the magnetic field to further the experimental work on magnetism. So here it is. By the way the German orgon list is also discussing the magnetic field lately.

"OBJECTIVE DEMONSTRATION OF THE ORGONE ENERGY……

Demonstration of orgonotic attraction in the energy field of the orgone accumulator:

Result: The magnetic north pole regularly turns toward the center of the upper edges, the magnetic south pole toward the center of the lower edges.

Conclusion: The reaction of the energy field of an orgone accumulator is of an orgonotic and not of a magnetic nature.
Proof:
1. Magnetic attraction is confined to the ends of the iron; the middle is not magnetic.

2. The poles of magnetic attraction (south and north) are not in-terchangeable except if one remagnetizes a weaker magnet with a stronger one. If the attraction effect of the orgone accumulator were of an iron-magnetic nature, the magnetic needle would turn toward the center of the edges always in the same way, no matter how we turn the accumulator. This, however, is not the case. Whichever edges we make the upper, lower or side edge, the magnetic needle always reacts as described, that is, it turns with its north pole toward the center of the upper edges and with its south pole toward the center of the lower edges. The attraction effect of the orgone accumulator, then, is not due to definite parts of die material and can, therefore, not be of a magnetic nature. Obviously, the reaction depends on the position of the orgone accumulator in the field of the orgonotic atmosphere of the earth. It follows, under consideration of all experimental and theoretical facts, that the energy field of the earth also is not of a magnetic but of an orgonotic nature and has a definite relationship to the magnetic north and south pole of the earth. It is likely that magnetism as such will be shown to be a function of the cosmic orgone energy. Many scientists doubt the magnetic nature of so-called "earth magnetism." ============

regards ..... Jogg

Brent wrote to OML August 17, 1998

Concerning the compass tests that was discussed a while back... at my job wojb radio we have a studio box; a prefab cube of steel, fiberglass insulation and steel exterior, with glass door and medium window on one side. so it makes a typical steel glass fiber steel orac and of course its inside the wooden building which has typical construction drywall .fiberglass and wood [plywood] siding. in my book this would qualify as an orac... well inside the studio the compass points all over the place,close to a wall it; the needle; points at the steel wall. in the center of the room 10 feet cube, the needle points north. near the floor it points at the floor ,same at ceiling points at ceiling. i quess the steel just attracts the needle and no orgonic effect was observed. this room is stuffy and often" close" although it may be an orac it doesn't show much orac effect. we recently hooked up airconditioning ducts and that helped with stuffiness. what everybody think? is this a poisoned orac etc? thanks brent

Ernst wrote OML August 27,1998:

Hi Jogg and OML,

first, thank you very much for typing in this long paragraph.

"OBJECTIVE DEMONSTRATION OF THE ORGONE ENERGY……

Demonstration of orgonotic attraction in the energy field of the orgone accumulator:

Result: The magnetic north pole regularly turns toward the center of the upper edges, the magnetic south pole toward the center of the lower edges."
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Top, Normal 200 20 100 210
Bottom, Normal 350 100 220 60

Top, Reverse 120 330 95 240
Bottom, Reverse 140 120 270 15

According to Reich's statement, the result should be as follows: (the compass was always kept at the same orientation, the earth magnetic field giving a reading of 90 deg)

Top, Normal + Reverse: 180 90 0 270
Bottom, Normal + Reverse: 0 270 180 90

Your comments are invited. Best regards

Ernst

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